451 smart fortwo

Hi,
So I was driving on the highway and I hear a sound, sounds like pebbles hitting the underside of the car. Then a clunk, start to make an emergency stop, car overheats and turns off. This is at 80 000km. Have the car towed to a dealer, that is not ours. They tell us that SMARTS that are driven on the highway a lot need to have the fan belt changed every 30 000km. We get back home and our dealer tells us we are the only SMART owners in the city they can think of out of warranty, and they have never had to change another fan belt in any other in the city, from normal wear and tear. So my question is does anyone know how long they are supposed to last?

Share

Reply to This

Replies to This Discussion

Mine's got 30,000 miles.

Reply to This

According to the smart Scheduled Maintenance Guide the belt isn't due for change until 60K miles. See attachment.
Attachments:

Reply to This

Thanks for posting the US maintenance guide.

I'm still curious about the topic...80,000 km imples a Canadian smart 450... not a 2008 series 451. The old engine was a 3 cyl 698cc unit by M-B and had little ancestory to the current 999cc unit supplied by Mitsubishi.

80,000 km normally would indicate a 6+ year old car. As general practice, all cars should have external belts checked and replaced every few years.. it's not a smart specific problem.

Internal belts such as cam drive belts are a different story. They used to require an adjustment to the tensioner after 30,000 miles or stand the risk of excessive wear and breakage by 60,000 miles - which then resulted in an expensive repair and possible valve damage. Honda Civics were prone to that.

Has anyone found good drawings of the smart 451 engine? Cutaway photos don't really explain what's inside.

Reply to This

We have a Canadian 2005 Pure, and you are correct on the engine specs, however we are at just over 4 years and 80 000km. The car has been serviced according to the 8000km recommendation, not including over 12 000 dollars worth of repairs since last September when it was tipped on to the driver side door. We have had pretty much everything that can go wrong with this car go wrong... and it was the fan belt.

Reply to This

I can only guess at the engine belt arrangement for the 450. I've never seen one in detail. "Fan" belt is a bit of an anachronism since the days of a belt driven cooling fan are long gone on most cars.

A single belt driving the alternator and water pump is common. If it breaks then then engine will either shut down automatically or overheat or run out of voltage... depending upon circumstance. It's bad luck when it happens... which your car seems to have had a bit of.

The current series of mhd smarts have a much bigger and different belt - one that drives the starter / generator... if that belt ever fails, the car will not be going anywhere... it should be number one on the new service inspection list.

Better luck with your 450 in future.

Reply to This

That's pretty much bullcrap as I know smart owners who have done over 100,000 MILES on the same belt.
EVERYBODY drives on the highway in UK, and they dont go through belts. I have belts in my stock, havent had that many customers for them up to now.
And I have owned six fortwos and one roadster, having done probably 250,000 miles myself in smarts and never changed a belt YET.
You are just unlucky,

Reply to This

RSS

Members

  • 451 Kahn
  • Hank Finestone

Latest Activity on 451s

Cisco added 2 discussions
6 minutes ago
Everyone is always open to an opinion... but sometimes it isn't done in the best of tastes. And when that unfortunately happens, the record needs to be set straight for all.
8 hours ago
2moremonths added a discussion
To all forum members: It unfortunately appears as if a smart car parts vendor and a former supplier of parts for Smart Madness has suddenly decided to create and post negative posts on all major smart car forums about us, our team members and a p...
9 hours ago
Cisco, It is unfortunate that you have taken your anger out publicly against one of our team members at Smart Madness. What is even more disappointing is that you haven't even once come to us to let us know any of this has happened to your smart. ...
11 hours ago
Steve Gosdin I'm here to read people say nothing much about their Smart cars.
14 hours ago
Steve Gosdin I;m here to read people say very little about their Smart cars.
14 hours ago
We do full customizing for this armrest as you can see. We have also made several passenger side armrest also. The height was raised compared to a previous armrest that we were looking at. Our armrest will be close to the height of the armrest on ...
yesterday
Dcarr I am looking for 451 shop repare/manules
yesterday

smartCar on Facebook/Twitter

facebook.com/smartCartwitter.com/smartCarRSS

smart Photos  |  smart Videos  |  smart Forum  |  smart Blogs  |  smart Events  |  smart Car Clubs

Badges  |  Bug Report  |  Privacy  |  Terms of Service

Sign in to chat!
Disclaimer: This is a user generated "Web 2.0" community, smart GmbH, smart USA and smart Canada are not responsible for the maintenance or creation of this page.
All brand names and/or trademarks used are for reference only and are the property of their respective holders. 451 smart fortwo is a non-commercial site.

Official smart Sites: http://www.smart.com - http://www.thesmart.ca - http://www.smartusa.com